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Ahem. THOSE pictures from The Rainbow
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Teri



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Desdemona wrote:
Ya know, and this may be WAY off base here so just slap me if I'm wrong, but there's one thing I notice about Paul doing "love" scenes.

Except for a few exceptions, i.e. Dealers and Paper Mask (OMG, that kiss!), he doesn't full-on snog the woman he's with. In Streets of Yesterday, he kind of pecks/teases.


Nope, nope--I've noticed that same thing. It's like he thinks, 'Yeah, OK, I'll do this sex scene, but with a bit of 'married man' reserve.', or something. Or former 'Catholic altar boy' trepidation maybe, I don't know.

He never really 'chews face', does he? Although I don't find that real appealing, either. But I'm always a little disappointed it's not somewhere in between--I don't think he goes for it enough, sometimes--he's a bit too polite! Laughing

There's some good snoggage in Forgotten though, is there? I'll have to go back and check that out. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teri wrote:


But you know the first thing I think of when I look at these is not
*hot sex* *hot sex* *hot sex*
I'm honestly struck first by the aesthetics of a wonderfully athletic body in motion there.

The wine opening pics are a whole 'nuther story, though. Wink


Well, ya know, really, there is no hot sex in Rainbow to speak of, except for the, OMG HOT TREE SEX.

I mean Anton's nudity was usually not a part of actual sex. I agree, nothing lewd at all, not that sex is lewd, because it isn't. Even the wine opening is more on the artistic than lewd side, wouldn't you agree?

Nothing like an intellectual discussion of male nudity to make my evening. Very Happy

But, honestly, the nude male body is a beautiful thing, nothing wrong with that, and I think we ought to enjoy it as much as we can! And it was artfully displayed in this movie, even if the rest of the movie could fall off the face of the earth for all I care. The girls' parts didn't come close to being as good, and they could have with different actresses.


Can I use my nude Anton climbing the mountain icon, Estelle?????
And it even has a very inspiring message too, actually. It does.
I find it extremely inspiring on those tough days when you feel like giving up. Smile

Art, physical fitness, and soulful inspiration, all wrapped up in one little 100x100 icon!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a more serious note........Karin, I luuuuurve your icon!!! Laughing
One of your creations????
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What, the play with it one? Yep I made that one. Can't you tell, hee hee?
I'm afraid mine are pretty easy to pick out, because they're not very good.

But I saw those curls on his head, and said, oh yeh, we need to play with that hair, and apparently Mister Bush is in the right mood for us to do that too! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't think you meant his hair.... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh, I just know her eyes found those right away. Bwahahaha!
I'm surprised she didn't get one, or did she?


You betcha!! Wink

And no, I didn't get one, the guy was not my type. I am rather picky, you know.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bushblower wrote:
Can I use my nude Anton climbing the mountain icon, Estelle?????


It's fine with me. I've seen it over at LJ and rather like it. Smile

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But I saw those curls on his head, and said, oh yeh, we need to play with that hair, and apparently Mister Bush is in the right mood for us to do that too! Very Happy


I'm with Rollande in thinking you meant something other than his curly locks. Ah, my mind is in the gutter way too much.

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And no, I didn't get one, the guy was not my type. I am rather picky, you know.


He wasn't my type either, Gaby. However, if such a calendar featured the likes of Paul or Joe Fiennes, I'd definitely get one (or two, if there were different poses).

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. Right. Curls.

<<snickers>>
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emay wrote:
Bushblower wrote:
Can I use my nude Anton climbing the mountain icon, Estelle?????


It's fine with me. I've seen it over at LJ and rather like it. Smile


Estelle, I think I love you!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

emay wrote:
]But I saw those curls on his head, and said, oh yeh, we need to play with that hair, and apparently Mister Bush is in the right mood for us to do that too! Very Happy


I'm with Rollande in thinking you meant something other than his curly locks. Ah, my mind is in the gutter way too much.

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I am shocked and hurt that you gals would think that I would think of
such a thing !!!! Crying or Very sad

Actually, the hair really is what I was going for. Don't you see him
tilting his head down and offering up his curls to us?

Aren't you ashamed of yourselves?

But I do see how you could come to your conclusions, now that I look at it
from the same place in which your minds are dwelling.

Shaking my head sadly at such a display of naughty lusty wenchiness.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think his best on screen kiss was in Our Mutual Friend. It was slow, sweet, a deep, thoughtful, tender kiss. A real turn on kiss.

IMO,

The Rainbow's first time sex scene was....as tasteless as I imagine Ken Russell (director) intended without Anton actually smacking her around during the act. I mean, why not throw that in too?
He should have chosen a meaner looking Anton if Anton was to view all woman as vessels for men. Too much contrast between the beauty of Paul and the callousness of Anton.
It didn't match with the other scenes.
It was incongruous, violently self indulgent of the director without succeeding in making any point. Stupid and pointless except for the sole purpose of the director having a personal laugh over it, and it winds up being the most UNSEXY sex scenes I've ever seen on film, and that includes movies dealing with rape, which aren't supposed to be sexy.

I mean, Anton cares about her to some degree, but Russell doesn't let him show much tenderness. He always reigns Anton in...no, that's too much. He chose the wrong actor for his purposes. Paul was too angelic looking for this role. Bad casting all around.

With that stupid music track he put in over it, and the zoom in and out of the moon--doh!. He made quite a joke of it. It's embarrassing to watch.

None of the other sex scenes were that much better, either. They all have that hedonistic tendency towards violence to them, totally lacking affection, tenderness, and love. Blech!

The only thing I came out thinking after watching this film was that the Director despises women, even though the main character was a woman who we're supposed to relate to. I mean, look at who he chose to play the lead? That says a lot. Russell was mocking the lead character's plight as well, letting her make a fool of herself. Though her scenes at teaching school were very well done, the best in the film. Overall, the film leaves me thinking the director hates women and heterosexual sex, that he's so repulsed by it, and makes it look so absolutely unappealing, that this film could very well serve as a successful form of birth control. And I think that too was his point. Make people repulse sex. And yet....most of Ken Russel's films are obsessed with sex. Lots of contradictions with Russell.

I also came out thinking that at the time they made the film, Ken Russell used those actors. And maybe the young actors thought they were going to be participating in artful cinema, like Women in Love which went on to become a classic. But instead, he made a flaky, angry, soft porn film for his own personal laugh and for others to scorn, with pretentions as an art film and oh yes, I almost forgot, we're adapting this novel here, I guess..... He wasn't making anything remotely close to art as his "Women in Love." With Rainbow, he was making his own personal little joke, or venting his disgust at heterosexual or all sexual relations, or preferences.

It makes me feel sorry for the actors, young as they were, still relatively new to the biz, hoping to be in a classic art film with the director of good name, who made the classic: Women in Love. If it had been a good film, it would have been a good choice. Instead, they were just used, used badly.

I never heard Paul mention anything about working with Ken Russell on this film in any interviews, or not much, probably the less said, the better.
It makes me understand Paul's reasons, not that I know them, but that's my guess as to why he refuses or does not do any nude sex scenes after that disaster. You get used, and you don't like it much.
To me, it's pretty clear:
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Like.....NEVER AGAIN!
Never again!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Down East wrote:
I never heard Paul mention anything about working with Ken Russell on this film in any interviews, or not much, probably the less said, the better.

He started to, during India's interview at TARDIS Sunday afternoon--but damn if someone didn't interrupt him! It was when she asked him Karin's question about opening the wine bottle, and he started saying something like, 'Well you know, when you work with a director like Ken Russell...', and people were still tittering about the whole thing, and someone yelled something funny out and distracted him. I would've really liked to have heard the rest of what he had to say about it. Confused

Yeah, you know that whole scene on the bed was really odd. And you never expected it the way he chivalrously carried her up that entire staircase, either. It seemed really out of place. It would've made more sense for him to just act very inept, and not show a lot of affection, and just make the whole act sort of awkward and boring for her, I think. The 'postition' he chose was confusingly hostile, too. Weird.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Down East wrote:
I never heard Paul mention anything about working with Ken Russell on this film in any interviews, or not much, probably the less said, the better.

He started to, during India's interview at TARDIS Sunday afternoon--but damn if someone didn't interrupt him! It was when she asked him Karin's question about opening the wine bottle, and he started saying something like, 'Well you know, when you work with a director like Ken Russell...', and people were still tittering about the whole thing, and someone yelled something funny out and distracted him. I would've really liked to have heard the rest of what he had to say about it! Confused

Yeah, you know that whole scene on the bed was really odd. And you never expected it, after the way he chivalrously carried her up that entire staircase, either. It seemed really out of place. It would've made more sense for him to just act very inept, and not show a lot of affection, and just make the whole act sort of awkward and boring for her, I think. The 'position' he chose was confusingly hostile, too. Weird.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe next time he's interviewed someone will ask him about it, and keep him on subject, though I imagine he probably welcomed any diversions or interuptions--regarding his work on that film.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those caps really slayed me. Shocked To. Die. For. Mwah.

Considering "The Rainbow": I saw that the book was written by the same person who wrote "Lady Chatterley's Lover" and - is it just me, or are the books/movies really almost the same? The butt-admiring, the "forbidden love", the naked frolicking in the countryside... I clearly had some deja-vus. Of course, I haven't seen "The Rainbow" yet because I can't seem to find it anywhere (and I don't have a VCR), but the bits I've seen are definitely similar - you just have to exchange Paul and Sean Bean (and Joely Richardson and whoever that girl in "The Rainbow" is).

*scratches head*

Ah, forget it. *continues admiring pretty pics*
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy cow! What one does find her on this board. Very impressing.

It's interesting to hear your opinions of that film. I'm a complete newby on it but this might change. Wink Seems to me like a stroke of fate that the only McGann film my local library has to offer ist The Rainbow. Shocked MUST ... GET ... IT Twisted Evil
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